Dangerous Pit Bulls – Why do they exist?
May 15th, 2006
I have not wrote about this topic for a long time. One reason is because frankly I’m sick of hearing about how Pit Bulls are dangerous.
On that note, dangerous Pit Bulls do exist.
Despite what fanciers would have you believe all Pit Bulls are not loving Angels that would rather lick you than bite you. Some will bite you, some will hurt you, and some are extremely dangerous.
To turn your back to the problem and act as if the world is out to get the breed is being naive and unrealistic.
Irresponsibly bred, irresponsibly raised, and irresponsible owners are the direct cause of serious dog bites in our country. Some people say it’s not a Pit Bull problem, it’s a people problem.
I say it’s not a Pit Bull problem, it’s a stupid people problem.
As a breed they have been exploited for over a decade. People breed whatever they can find and they sell them for $300-$5,000 per puppy. This creates unstable, unsound, dangerous dogs because they are bred for color, size, width of head, and not a single thought is given to the temperament of the dog.
These dogs are taking over the population in my opinion. Because they are easily purchased by anyone. Those customers go on to breed their newly aquired dog to another “good looking dog” and the cycle repeats.
Responsible, reputable breeders don’t breed enough to fill the demand. They have waiting lists that require people to wait for years in some cases.
Dangerous Pit Bulls exist because people give money to breeders who are not breeders but profiter’s trying to make money off their rare silver pups or their big giant headed freaks
and people continue to buy them. Only to end up with a dog that has issues, develops problems then people avoid the problems, make excuses and create a dangerous dog.
If people would stop, think, and research before they went out and got some crap dog, we would have less dog bites.
Jason Mann
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You know what I don’t get? Why is it that people have their dogs off a leash, then when the dog runs up to my Darcie, they ask if she’s friendly? This happens with dogs on leashes too. Why would you let your dog run up to mine, if you are not sure she is friendly? I even get the, “Boy, she looks mean”, or the “One bite from your dog and my dog will be in pieces.” My Darcie is always on a leash, but I don’t go up to random dogs and let her play if I don’t know their temperment. Here is another example of dumb people. They are called leashes. Use them!
Jason, I think you’re right on when you say its a stupid people problem! Stupid as they are, they got the press on lock, just waiting for another “vicious” pit bull occurance. And unfortunately that is the press most widely read and listened to by the majority. For example, like most dog owners, my husband and I take our pets to the vet regularly. On one such visit a vet tech asked how are little pit was doing. I replied that she was doing very well and learning manners quite nicely. She in turn replied “You know those dogs are people aggressive.” I wasn’t angry at the women, not exactly. In the part of southern California where we live pit bulls are dubbed “vicious” and their are stricter rules for pit bull owners. The tech is about 60 and been working with animals for about 30 years. That just shows how far back the drama goes. Good thing our actual vet is a pit bull lover like us! Lisa
hi, I have a few questions regarding pit’s. I have a pit bull puppy named Thunder. I think the breeders fall into the category of stupid, because they only breed for money. Thunder was largest of the litter and the only one left when I found him. I felt really sorry for him and I didnt want him (or any animal) living in the conditions he was so I brought him home. I didnt even have to pay for him because they wanted him gone. I’m completely new to this breed and have no idea what I’m doing. I have heard stories but nothing flattering. He seems to be a good boy but he’s very skiddish with people and I’m concerned. Given his background with people I can totaly understand why he doesnt like them but I would still like to correct this before it becomes an issue. I can’t keep him if he’s aggressive towards people. Is it a good idea to put him in dog classes? If so what type is best? If you can help me please send me an email at murray2767@hotmail.com thanks alot
I was walking my Cairn terrier at one end of a long park yesterday. About 90-100 yards away I saw a 20-something young man running with what appeared to be a pit bull. His behavior seemed to be raising the dog’s level dangerously. I decided to exit the park – about 15 feet away. Within 10 feet of the exit, I turned and saw the pit bull about 30 feet away very fast coming right at us.
The pit bull only lunged. I put out my hand to stop him. As you well know, a 61-year-old man is no match for a pit bull. I was knocked over, and my Cairn terrier was lock-jawed by the pit bull. Using my elbows pounding hard into his eye sockets it made no difference. The owner finally caught up, grabbed the leash and while pulling backwards (a harness not a choke chain) I managed to push up on the nose and loosen the jaw lock.
Before the attack, there was no time to put my dog in my arms or avoid what happened. My dog will be in the hospital for many days with at least 6 drainage tubes. I will recover from the bites.
As a victim, I was first in shock, then extremely angry. I still am. Emotionally I agree with the idea of beating anyone of them I see with a metal pole.
The irony in America – California is that the DA’s and the Politicians can be bought. Duhh what’s new?
Most animal experts — like San Francisco Department of Animal Care & Control Director Carl Friedman — believe there’s no proof that pit bulls are more inherently aggressive than other breeds. And this is the argument bit bull enthusiasts use. So what if they found some #’s that said in a certain area more people were bitten by Beagles. A Beagle? Oh how scary!
However, when PIT BULLS do attack, they are capable of doing tremendous damage. Bred to take down bulls 10 times their size, their strength and tenacity honed as illegal sport-fighting animals, pit bulls are the cheap protection of choice for drug dealers, criminals, pimps and those simply wanting a macho status symbol. To add to the misery, pit bulls, according to those working in animal rescue, are the most over bred and abused dog on the planet — beaten, burned, starved, chained, forced to fight.
While many pit bulls are well-loved pets, it’s hard to know which version is coming down the street. To many people, pit bulls are scary: “Frankenstein canines,” as one legislator called them, with bulging chest and shoulder muscles, a brick-like snout and looming square head. With an estimated 1,200 pounds of force per square inch (according to the Journal of Trauma in 1989), a pit bull’s jaw has 10 times the crushing power of those of other large dogs, including German Shepherds, Rottweilers and Dobermans. Pit bulls don’t just bite, they clamp. In a few terrifying, frenzied moments, they can “de-glove” the flesh from a human arm, pull limbs off, penetrate clear through the abdomen, and snap the body’s largest bones.
Consider the physiology of pit bulls, coupled with the breed’s allure for irresponsible and abusive owners. Add in the brutish trauma experienced by people like Josh Armijo and Nicholas Faibish — and banning pit bulls doesn’t just begin to seem reasonable. It seems like the right thing to do.
In San Francisco, for example, pit bulls account for approximately 65 percent of dogs coming into the local shelter. Of the dogs available for adoption in San Francisco, pit bulls are the only breed that remains unadopted in large numbers. Most are euthanized. THE AKC LOVES THE MONEY AND SO DO THEIR POLITICIANS. AS MUCH AS I WAS A VICTIM, SO ARE THESE DOGS.
SO TODAY MY ANGER HAS TURNED FROM BEATING EVERY PIT BULL WITH THAT METAL POLE TO THE INDIFFERENCE OF THE POLICE, DA, POLITICIANS, AKC AND ALL THE IGNORANTS OUT THERE.
I cannot even find out who the owner is. They have the dog. They know the owner, but (per CA privacy laws) can’t – won’t give me her name. The only was I can find out is to go file a civil action vs. Jane Doe ($$$$), prepare a subpoena ($$$$), serve it on the PD ($$$), get her name, amend the complaint ($$$), serve it on her ($$$), wait 30 days, get a court date (6 mos to 2 years), get a judgment ($$$$) & by that time she may have moved to Texas, where George loves dogs!
Meanwhile the bills are over $2000.00 – my dog’s and mine. Plus the pain and suffering – AND THEY WON’T TELL ME WHO THE OWNER IS.
States and cities struggle with the silly issue of what is a “potentially dangerous” dog. Some local laws narrowly define a vicious dog, which can lead to arguments that a dog is entitled to “one free bite.”
Hell! I got my one free and then 35 more in the next 20 seconds. What are they thinking? One free bite!!!
California law does not define potentially dangerous dogs so narrowly. [vi] Some local governments, including San Francisco, regulate dogs that approach people on the street “in a terrorizing manner.” This definition allows action to control potentially dangerous dogs before they bite.
What? Before they bite? There was no warning. No time to react. You cannot take “action to control” before they bite.
You see, this is just lip service. Why we could even attempt national legislation to at least have every pit bull muzzled when out of its yard. Would never happen. Would never make it to the floor for a vote. If it did it would not pass. If it passed it would not be enforced.
In San Francisco, it’s a $400.00 fine to run a red light (and court action). That doesn’t stop too many people. Now a $5000.00 fine and 6 months in jail might make people feel a little safer. However, if the person is just traveling through, stops for a romp, what then? It is a national problem. Even if your county passes an ordinance with that stiff fine, it only applies to ownership within the county.
They cannot make a law saying you can’t own a dog if you do not live in their jurisdiction. And what are they going to do? Set up roadblocks & check all the cars?
It is a national tragedy, a national need and a national concern. Local governments have little effect. At least some try.
Is Breed Specific Legislation the answer? No. A City can make the law, but what can they do to a guy who resides in another area, but goes to visit that city? Fine him? Tell him to get out? If CA says muzzle or $5000.00 fine (with a hearing) and a warning to those who enter at the border: “IF YOU ARE IN POSSESSION OF A LARGE AGRESSIVE DOG AND IT IS NOT MUZZLED IN PUBLIC, CA WILL IMPOUND THE DOG. FINE – $5000.00″ & Then go National.
At this point, we’ll never stop pit bulls breeding anymore than stopping heroin on the street. BUT IF THERE IS A LAW REQUIRING ALL OF THEM AND A FEW OTHER DANGEROUS BREEDS TO WEAR A MUZZLE – AND IF THERE IS A STIFF FINE AND THEY LOSE THE DOG PERMANENTLY, THAT JUST MIGHT SLOW THIS MADNESS DOWN.
No they are NOT all the same. They don’t use Rottweilers or Shepherds to kill bulls in a pit. They are far different. To those that are responsible owners with well-trained dogs and love the breed, then save the breed: agree to muzzle your dog in public. Isn’t that a fair compromise? No one can really know what kind of owner and what disposition dog is coming down that path at you. No one. Until they require muzzles, I will be replacing the batteries in my new taser many times.
Decent owners: come along and take action to eradicate the bad elements, instead of hiding behind that “my dog would never hurt anyone” stuff.
Get your facts straight. The dogs never killed the bulls. They CAUGHT THEM. Secondly, all dogs bite. The owner of this dog was the problem, not the dog. The dog should have been on a leash (there is a law in every state that requires a dog to be leashed in public unless otherwise stated) and under control. And I’ve said it two thousand times. The American Pit Bull Terrier (the only dog that should be referred to as a PIT BULL) is not for everyone. If breeders did their jobs, we would not have these problems. If shelters wouldn’t adopt out weak temperament dogs, we would not have this problem. If CULLING was brought back into fashion, We would not have these problems. But that’s another point for another topic. I hope your dog pulls through.
Jason – Moderator
I’d like to add another comment here. Muzzles = won’t work. They increase agitation and why should I have to muzzle my dog (who has never bitten and never will) for something someone’s dog did? That would be like telling you that since I work with a Cairn Terrier that will bite you for touching it that you should muzzle your dog because this one is dangerous. Threats about tasers and hurting people’s dogs are stupid. The answer is, why not work with the Pit Bull community to find a solution other than sticking the entire breed into a bubble because of what irresponsible owners do. DOGS BITE. OWNERS LET THEM. Who should be held accountable? If your dog bit me? I would hold YOU accountable for your dogs actions. Not the dog. People control dogs. Dogs that bite and are allowed to bite are not under control. Laws that focus on DOGS will never do anything to curb the problem. It’s common sense.
Jason – Moderator
Another thing, my aunt has a 10 year old, female, black and white, American Pit Bull Terrier. She is the sweetest, smartest dog I have ever met. You can show her a new “trick” one time and she will do it on cue everytime. JUST SHOWING IT TO HER ONCE! I think that this is amazing. Maggie is a cool dog! If everyone met that wonderful Pit, who’d be saying, “Ban the breed! It is the only solution!”
~Amber and Emily